1.0MS NOWhttps://www.ms.nowMS NOWhttps://www.ms.nowrich600338<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="wqiLFOkFXR"><a href="https://www.ms.now/katie-phang/watch/elie-mystal-trump-becoming-more-popular-by-openly-defying-the-institutions-of-the-law-199268933625">Elie Mystal: Trump becoming more popular by ‘openly defying the institutions of the law’</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://www.ms.now/katie-phang/watch/elie-mystal-trump-becoming-more-popular-by-openly-defying-the-institutions-of-the-law-199268933625/embed#?secret=wqiLFOkFXR" width="600" height="338" title="“Elie Mystal: Trump becoming more popular by ‘openly defying the institutions of the law’” — MS NOW" data-secret="wqiLFOkFXR" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); </script> https://res.cloudinary.com/msnow/images/f_auto,q_auto/v1762459223/1701615991088_n_phang_pl_mystal_231203_1920x1080-825fo2-1/1701615991088_n_phang_pl_mystal_231203_1920x1080-825fo2-1.jpg?_i=AA19201080Elie Mystal, Justice Correspondent for The Nation, speaks to Katie Phang about the latest developments in efforts to remove Trump from the ballot under the 14th Amendment and why he believes the challenge is unlikely to succeed. They also discuss the growing challenge Trump poses to the rule of law, as his popularity continues to grow despite his increasingly defiant rhetoric. "I think is becoming more popular because he's openly defying the institutions of the law and he is facing no consequences,” Mystal says.